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Career Transition

6 episodes
2018 → 2026
5 recurring guests

Life after competitive tennis — identity, career, giving back. The smallest thematic cluster in the archive and one of the most important to listen to before the player needs it.

What recurs: the identity collapse that follows the last competitive match, the parent role that ends with no script for what comes next, the decade of training that did not include any preparation for the year after, the players who found the transition hardest and the ones who found it easier, and the small but growing set of episodes that take post-tennis life seriously rather than as an afterthought.

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"Who am I now?" — four players asked the same question, years apart.
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What am I when I am no longer an athlete

Rishav Khanal’s What Am I When I Am No Longer an Athlete episode is the catalog’s most direct treatment of the post-competition identity question. Khanal is unsentimental about the months after competitive tennis ends — the loss of structure, the loss of an identity that had been on every form he filled out for fifteen years, the absence of the daily measurable progress the sport had reliably provided. The episode does not resolve the question. It is the question, asked in the form that most former competitors recognize when they hear it.

"Tennis was the answer to every question someone asked me about my life. When tennis was over, the questions were still there. The answers were not." — Rishav Khanal, What Am I When I Am No Longer an Athlete

The episode pairs with Hernan Chousa’s Being the Parent is Tough episode (Jun 2023) on the parent side. Both episodes are about an identity that ends without warning, and the work of building a new one in the space the old one used to fill.

Life beyond the pro tour

Danielle Lao’s Life Beyond Pro Tour episode (Jan 2024) is the catalog’s most-recommended single conversation for any player or parent thinking about what comes after the competitive arc. Lao’s account is detailed and generous: the years on tour, the financial reckoning, the moment of deciding it was time, the months that followed, and the slow construction of a life that uses the sport without being defined by it. Patricia Hy-Boulais’s From Pro to Parent episode (Jan 2018) plays a similar role from a generation earlier.

What both episodes refuse is the false reassurance that the transition is easy if you just plan well. Lao and Hy-Boulais both planned. Both still describe the transition as harder than they expected.

The injury-forced transition

Sky Kim’s The Rocky Road to Pro episode (Oct 2025) is the catalog’s most recent treatment of the transition that is forced rather than chosen. Kim’s ACL injury at fourteen reshaped her tennis arc before she had the chance to make any developmental decisions on her own terms. The episode is not, structurally, a career-transition episode in the usual sense. But it is — because Kim’s career had to be rebuilt twice, and the rebuilding work is the same work the late-career transition demands, just compressed into adolescence.

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"I had to figure out who I was without tennis when I was fourteen. Most people get to wait." — Sky Kim

The What’s Next series

The Junior Tennis What’s Next? series is the catalog’s most structured run on this theme. Five episodes — Jack Heslin (Jul 2021), Crews Enochs (Aug 2021), Morgan Stone (Jun 2022), Allie McCray (Aug 2022), Jake Beasley (Mar 2024) — track players at the moment of the post-junior crossroad. None of these episodes resolve into clean trajectories, and that is the point. The transition out of competitive junior tennis is genuinely hard for the strong player, the modest player, and the player whose body is forcing the question. The variation is in the resources and the family conversation around them, not in whether the question is hard.

The famous-parent transition

Brett Connors’ Finding My Own Identity episode threads through both Theme 13 (Family Stories) and this theme, because the post-competition question lands differently for the player whose name carries someone else’s competitive shadow. The catalog’s editorial position, sustained across these episodes, is that the post-tennis identity work for these players is not optional. It is the work, in some real sense, that the tennis itself was preparation for.

What parents can do early

The catalog has not produced a single canonical parent-side episode on preparing for the transition years before they happen, and that is a coverage gap Lisa has flagged in recent episodes. What can be assembled, across the existing episodes, is a working playbook. Make sure the player has an identity outside tennis at fourteen, not just at twenty. Make sure college is chosen for academic and life reasons, not just tennis ones. Make sure the financial conversation includes a realistic assessment of post-tennis trajectories, not just the pro pathway. Make sure the player has interests, friendships, and skills that do not require a racket.

The hardest lesson in this theme is the simplest one: every competitive tennis career ends. The families who treat the ending as a planned transition — built into the journey from year one — are the families whose players come through it intact. The families who treat it as something that will sort itself out are the ones who, six months after the last match, find they have a young person at home who does not know what to do next and a family that no longer has the structure that organized everything before.

All episodes in this theme

31 conversations on career transition.

Jul 2025
From Bollettieri to the Big Screen
Recorded at the INTENNSE Arena in Atlanta, Jordan Cox shares his full tennis journey: starting at age 8, training at Bollettieri/IMG Academy from age 14 to 21 alongside players like Kei Nishikori and Jesse Levine, reaching the junior Wimbledon final in 2009, pursuing a pro career (peaking around world #450), experienci
Jordan Cox
Apr 2025
It's 99% Mental
Damon Valentino, a sports psychologist, former Michigan State D1 player, and Director of Mental Fitness for the PTPA (overseeing the top 250 ATP/WTA players), joins Lisa Stone to discuss the mental side of junior tennis.
Damon Valentino
Jan 2024
Funding a Pro Career
Jamie Loeb, a former NCAA singles champion from UNC and current WTA touring professional, discusses the brutal financial realities of sustaining a professional tennis career outside the top 50.
Jamie Loeb
Apr 2023
Raising Aces — Coach Pete's Guide to Empowering Tennis Parents
Coach Pete Scales, a 29-year high school tennis coach in the St.
Peter (Pete) Scales
Nov 2022
Improving Small Margins (Mental Side of the Game)
Mental performance coach and author Peter Scales returns for the Season 11 finale to address what Lisa Stone calls the single most common topic in her community: the mental side of junior tennis.
Jun 2022
Jr Tennis What's Next Ep3
Morgan Stone — Lisa Stone's son, former Atlanta junior tennis player and two-year college player (Boise State), now CEO of Root Troop, an NFT/Web3 company — joins his mother for the third installment of their "Jr Tennis What's Next" series.
Morgan Stone
May 2022
Jr Players SoCal Pro Circuit
Chris Boyer — tennis parent (his son Tristan plays at Stanford), and committee member for the newly launched Southern California Pro Circuit — joins Lisa Stone to describe a 12-tournament ITF Pro Circuit series launching in Southern California across two three-week blocks (San Diego first, then Los Angeles), with a one
Chris Boyer
Apr 2022
What Should Parents Look For in a Short-Term Camp or Training Experience
Todd Widom — South Florida-based elite junior and professional development coach — returns to ParentingAces to give parents a practical framework for evaluating short-term training camps and visiting academy experiences.
Apr 2022
Finding My Own Identity
Brett Connors — son of Jimmy Connors, age 42 at recording, career broadcast producer at Tennis Channel and ESPN and now a nature and tennis photographer — joins Lisa Stone to discuss the psychological experience of growing up as the child of a famous athlete, deliberately avoiding the sport that defined his father, and
Brett Connors
Mar 2022
Surviving the Second Tier
Katie Lever — a PhD candidate and author of the novel "Surviving the Second Tier" — joins Lisa Stone to discuss the under-discussed realities of being a college athlete at a mid-major university.
Katie Lever
Feb 2022
College Tennis on TennisONE
Randy Master, a tennis media veteran who has worked at Tennis Week Magazine, ESPN, Tennis Channel, and IMG, joins Lisa Stone for a bonus episode to discuss TennisONE — a free-to-download, free-to-use streaming app that covers pro tennis, challengers, and most significantly, college tennis.
Randy Master
Nov 2021
What Am I When I Am No Longer an Athlete
Rishav Khanal, a Nepal-born, US-raised tennis player who taught himself the sport and built a business career starting with a pre-graduation LinkedIn rotational program, addresses the identity crisis that athletes face when competitive sport ends.
Rishav Khanal
Apr 2021
Permission to Dream ft. Thomas Williams
Thomas Williams — former USC Trojan linebacker (under Pete Carroll's dynasty run of 59 wins and 6 losses), former Carolina Panthers NFL linebacker, neck injury survivor, author of two books ("Permission to Dream" and "The Relentless Pursuit of Greatness"), and motivational speaker currently teaching USC students — disc
Thomas Williams
Mar 2021
Own The Arena ft. Katrina Adams
Katrina Adams — first Black female president and youngest president in USTA history, former professional doubles specialist (WTA), Northwestern University alum, Harlem Junior Tennis and Education Program leader, and author of the book "Own the Arena" — discusses her complete journey from a Martin Luther King Boys Club
Katrina Adams
Sep 2020
Naomi Osaka's Hitting Partner on Personal Growth Through College Tennis
Karue Sell, former UCLA Bruin standout and current hitting partner for 2020 US Open champion Naomi Osaka, gives an inside view of professional hitting partner work and a passionate defense of college tennis as a vehicle for personal development.
Karue Sell
Aug 2019
Using CrowdFunding to Launch a Pro Career with Jimmy Bendeck
Jimmy Bendeck — Baylor University finance and entrepreneurship double major, former top junior player whose career was derailed at 12 by a shoulder subluxation requiring two surgeries and a 3.5-year recovery — discusses launching his professional career in doubles immediately after graduation, funded primarily through
Jimmy Bendeck
Jul 2019
It Gets Lonely Out There with Danielle Lao
Danielle Lao — 28, USC women's tennis star, WTA-ranked at approximately 167 at time of episode, author of a book about the pro tour experience — provides an unvarnished first-person account of professional tennis life: the loneliness of the ITF grind, the shock of losing the college team environment, the financial calc
Danielle Lao
May 2019
A Deeper Look Inside 2019 NCAA DI Championships with Todd Widom
Todd Widom joins Lisa Stone — who attended the 2019 NCAA Division I Championships at USTA's Lake Nona National Campus in Orlando — for a dual-perspective analysis of what they observed at the championships: the venue, the broadcast, the level of play, and whether college tennis is a realistic pathway to professional te
May 2019
Two Tennis Dads Discuss Their Son's Developmental Pathway with Ron Hohmann and Eric Mautner
Ron Hohmann (Long Island, father of Ronnie Hohmann — 2019 Easter Bowl champion, #1 on Tennis Recruiting, headed to LSU in January 2020 on a full scholarship) and Eric Mautner (Greenwich, CT, father of Kyle Mautner — all-Ivy League four-year Penn #1 singles player, heading into investment banking) discuss their sons' tr
Ron Hohmann + 1 other
Mar 2019
How the ITF World Tennis Tour is Really Impacting Players with Jared, Aron, and David Hiltzik
David Hiltzik (father), Jared Hiltzik (ATP ~350), and Aron Hiltzik (recently turned pro, ATP ~900 at the time) discuss the real-world impact of the ITF World Tennis Tour restructuring that went into effect January 1, 2019.
Jared Hiltzik + 2 other
Mar 2019
Where Does This $70 Million Go? with Shelby Talcott
Shelby Talcott, a 26-year-old professional tennis player (WTA 736, ITF 245) who played at the University of Iowa and majored in journalism, wrote a viral blog post titled "The ITF's Deal with the Devil" analyzing the ITF's five-year, $70 million data-sharing contract with Sportradar — a deal that sells player data to o
Shelby Talcott
Jan 2019
Why We Should Care About the ITF with Dave Miley
Dave Miley — former 25-year ITF veteran (Director of Development for 17 of those years), then departing in 2016 — returns to ParentingAces to discuss his candidacy for ITF President and his diagnosis of the structural problems in global tennis governance.
Dave Miley
Nov 2018
What is it about Millennials? with Todd Widom
Todd Widom — developmental coach and former ATP Tour professional, closing out his 2018 run as ParentingAces' most frequent guest — joins Lisa Stone for the final episode of 2018 to discuss what he identifies as a generational shift in mentality among junior players: the rise of entitlement, reduced frustration toleran
Nov 2018
A New Hat for Patricia Hy-Boulais
Patricia Hy-Boulais — former WTA professional (18 years on tour), coach, academy director, tennis parent (two children playing at high levels), and new blogger — returns to ParentingAces for a second appearance to discuss her new blog and forthcoming book, both aimed at bridging the gap between coaches and parents.
Patricia Hy-Boulais
Jul 2018
Tennis Takes with Ryan Lipman and his mom, Lisa
Ryan Lipman — middle child of three tennis-playing brothers, Vanderbilt men's tennis assistant coach, and co-founder of the Tennis Takes website — joins his mother Lisa Lipman to discuss their family's journey through junior, college, and post-college tennis.
Ryan Lipman + 1 other
Apr 2018
Are College and ITFs Really Pathways to the Pros with Todd Widom
Todd Whittom provides a data-driven analysis of the college-to-pro pathway, citing specific ATP and WTA players who went through college at the time of recording.
Todd Whittom
Feb 2018
Are We Killing the Dream? Part 2
Dave Miley — 25-year ITF veteran (executive director of development 1991-2015), now Asian Tennis Federation development director and UTR consultant — provides an insider critique of the ITF transition tour, specific structural alternatives he proposed, and a detailed analysis of why UTR could unify all global tennis re
Dave Miley
Aug 2015
ParentingAces with Nicole Pitts and Gayal Pitts Black
Lisa Stone interviews Nicole Pitts — a former pro who turned professional at 14 and is now in medical school — and her mother Gayal Pitts Black, who raised all three of her daughters (Nicole, Tornado, and Hurricane Black) to the professional ranks.
Nicole Pitts + 1 other
Jan 2015
Greg Patton and Nathan Pasha on ParentingAces
Boise State head men's coach Greg Patton — who also serves as the USTA International Collegiate Championship men's coach — and University of Georgia player Nathan Pasha discuss the US team's experience competing in the International Collegiate Championship in France in December 2014.
Greg Patton + 1 other
Sep 2014
Tim Mayotte on ParentingAces
Tim Mayotte, a former world number-seven ATP player, Stanford NCAA champion, and former director of the USTA New York Training Center, argues that the critical missing link in American tennis development is coach education.
Tim Mayotte
Jun 2014
Kelly Jones on ParentingAces
Kelly Jones, head coach at Furman University and former world number-one doubles player on the ATP tour, discusses the chaotic state of American junior tennis development and his deliberate strategy of late, measured development for his own daughter.
Kelly Jones
Where to go from here

Where you are in the runway toward the end of competition changes which of these episodes will land hardest. Pick a stage.